Defense Nerds Podcast
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Previously known as The Political Fallout Shelter, Military Times Deputy Editor Leo Shane III and Defense News Capitol Hill Bureau Chief Joe Gould introduce listeners to the stories behind the latest military happenings on Capitol Hill. Each week, they’ll bring an insider’s perspective on what the biggest headlines are, why the public should care, and what’s coming next.

The boys of summer have gone

Leo and Joe break down Congress’ return to work this month, including the defense appropriations package (1:30) and the annual defense authorization b...
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Draft Showdown: TV Joint Chiefs

Leo and Joe continue their month of fantasy draft nonsense with a contest to see who can create the best Joint Chiefs of Staff from popular television...
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Draft Showdown: U.S. aircraft

Leo and Joe continue their month of fantasy draft nonsense with a contest to see who can create the best fleet of American military aircraft. Defense ...
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Vacation, all I ever wanted

Leo and Joe get ready for the summer congressional recess with a wrap-up of lawmakers’ last-minute work before leaving town: finalizing the new budget...
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Money for nothing

Leo and Joe look at the surprising two-year, $2.7 trillion budget deal (1:00) and whether it leaves House Republicans with regrets for their earlier o...
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Revvin' up your engine

Leo and Joe break down Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s attack on Defense Secretary nominee Mark Esper (1:05) and what his likely confirmation means for Pentag...
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You say potato, I say Buttigieg

Leo and Joe recap the fights to come following House passage of the annual defense authorization act (1:05) and the upcoming confirmation hearing for ...
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