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Doug Lesmerises is joined by Jordan Zirm on this Thursday Orange and Brown Talk Podcast to discuss why the word hype is driving Doug crazy when applied to the Browns this season. Jordan is a former member of the Cleveland media scene who now lives in Los Angeles and works on The Checkdown, the NFL's social media outlet that tracks all the fun stuff going on in the league.On this pod Doug and Jordan discuss why the Browns are substance and not sizzle; what the national perception of the Browns is now and might be during the season; and whether Odell Beckham Jr. could be headed toward one of his best seasons in the league.Thanks to Jordan for joining the pod, and thanks to you for listening to the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast from cleveland.com.Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up.Music credit:District Four by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.