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The script gets flipped on this episode of JUST, as Rob and Jes take to the guest seats and our editor, Chris Pappalardo, interviews them. They discuss the nuances of https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/07/george-packer-four-americas/619012/ (“How America Fractured Into Four Parts”) by George Packer, which we highly recommend reading alongside this episode! 0:00 Episode starts  2:08 Jes’s check in 5:28 Rob’s check in 7:24 Chris joins the call 9:11 Rob introduces Chris 11:20 Chris frames the episode 12:15 How do Rob and Jes frame the “four Americas”? 12:25 Rob’s answer 13:55 Jes’s answer 17:33 Who are the people in these archetypes? 19:26 Jes talks about the “real America” archetype 21:00 Interlude 22:02 Where do Rob and Jes place themselves in the Four Americas? 22:09 Rob’s answer 23:11 Jes’s answer 25:52 What are the issues with the “Just America” archetype? 26:39 Rob’s answer 28:44 Jes’s answer 31:09 How do you reach across the line? 31:16 Rob’s answer 33:22 Jes’s answer 36:31 How are Rob and Jes going to show up moving forward? 36:39 Rob’s answer 38:30 Jes’s answer 41:39 Wrap up 42:48 Outro Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show! Follow DJ Pdogg online: http://www.djpdogg.com/ (www.djpdogg.com) https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20 (Twitter) https://www.instagram.com/djpdogg/ (Instagram) Follow Producer Lo Key https://www.instagram.com/producerlokey/ (Instagram) Our sponsors: https://www.recitynetwork.org/ (ReCity Network) https://www.coastal24.com/ (Coastal Credit Union) Our hosts: Jes Averhart, cofounder of https://bwshomecoming.com/ (Black Wallstreet Homecoming) Rob Shields, executive director of the https://www.recitynetwork.org/ (Recity Network.) Our Producer: Ben Azevedo, owner of https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/ (Bear Cave Audio) Our Editor Chris Pappalardo