It’s Fred McConnell’s turn to be ignorant this week as Leah Green and guest Grace Shutti lament the ups and downs of being born with Afro hair. Topics include supporting your local auntie and the problem of getting your hair touched by Europeans. Also, can we talk about white people and braids?

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The 'Why is black hair a thing?' episode – Token podcast

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