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Was the Arab Spring a mirage? Did it mean anything? Five years on, we’re looking at how the revolutions panned out in Tunisia and Egypt, and why Turkey lost the Arab Spring. Featuring interviews with CNN's Fareed Zakaria, Brian Klaas, Marina Ottoway, Nathan Brown, and Merve Tahiroglu. This podcast has been edited and condensed. Visit ForeignAffairs.com for a full transcript. Music credit: FreeMusicArchive.org / The Stealing Orchestra & Rafael Dionisio, Jurica Jelić, Podington Bear