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In this episode Jeannette , David and I discuss a recent article in the New York Times by Roy Scranton about the high likelihood that we will never get back the world that existed before 2019. Instead of feeling fatalistic, we acknowledge that this is a sane and centered approach to our near future and that the pandemic was a wake up call about the crisis our planet faces. This is one of our most impassioned and relevant conversations to date. Don’t miss it.