Two distinctive business owners join us to talk about the differences and similarities between running new versus established businesses.Founded by Stephen Dyer, Clay Cups is a young business that changes the way we think about café culture through sustainability. Sylvana Mahmic also joins us to share her experience with Plumtree: a long-standing not-for-profit organisation providing support for young children with developmental delay or disability. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.