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Have you ever heard people discussing gene editing of predators to turn them into herbivores? Or to gene edit animals who have many offspring, to have them create far fewer offspring? These are some of the extreme suggestions coming from advocates to reduce the suffering of wild animals. So what’s up with WAS? Davita and Trev discuss ideas within this movement, and the many responses to it. Links: Murray Lower Darling Rivers Indigenous Nations: https://www.facebook.com/mldrin Herbivorize Predators: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSaX8vDzaVvMGGfAPA2-Dsw/about Estimates for the number of animals in the world: https://reducing-suffering.org/how-many-wild-animals-are-there Overview of Wild Animal Suffering: https://longtermrisk.org/the-importance-of-wild-animal-suffering PTSD in wild animals: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6685979/ Music Played: Deadstar 'Don't it get you down': https://open.spotify.com/album/6ugwsPiMoCHWsKyrIuJ1AZ Jordan Rakei 'Lost Myself': https://jordanrakei.bandcamp.com/album/cloak World Sick 'Shower': https://worldsick.bandcamp.com/album/shower Podcast Image: https://www.flickr.com/photos/50457550@N00 This image is licensed with CC BY-SA 2.0. To view a copy of this license, visit https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/