Society & Culture
Post-show Roundtable KOTESOL Discussion following the 2010 KOTESOL National Candidates Discussion October 3, 2010 Participants: Peadar Callaghan, Robert Capriles, Sara Davila, Matt Doyon, Doug Huffer, Aaron Jolly, Jeff Lebow, Stafford Lumsden, Bryan Stoakley Topics Discussed 00:30 - Notification of Conference Session Acceptance or Rejection 06:40 - Website Status & Recording Conference Presentations 10:00 - Role of 1st VP 13:00 Korean Participation & Possibilities of a Korean Language Special Interest Group 22:30 - Openness, Transparency, Making Organization Information Public 27:10 - More Website Update Details, Mea Culpa, & Prospects for Professional Intervention 37:35 - National Budget 40:00 - Final Words, We KOTESOL Onsite Voting at the International Conference Oct. 16~17 More information about elections & candidates at: http://kotesol.org/?q=elections Chat Log 08:20:39 saradavila -> Argh...skype is not working for me... 08:20:54 saradavila -> will try to get it going... 08:21:48 Stoakley -> teehee...this site uses Drupal...ZeroPoint Theme 08:22:11 Stoakley -> and has Suckerfish enabled 08:22:41 saradavila -> working on it. 08:23:15 saradavila -> Jeff, can you send me a skype request. 08:24:10 saradavila -> Hi, jeff I think I just sent you a request can you skype me. 08:25:05 jmart -> What is a ustream? 08:25:32 dhuffer -> the streaming audio 08:25:32 jmart -> I don't think I have skype on this computer. 08:25:46 jmart -> oh, like turn off your radio before calling in. 08:25:54 dhuffer -> yup 08:26:13 Stoakley -> We will be recording sessions. 08:26:34 Stoakley -> I will be putting it up on our official website. 08:26:36 jmart -> oops I think we have two Jeffs here. 08:26:53 Stoakley -> I am remaking the website right now. 08:27:01 Stoakley -> I am. 08:27:12 Stoakley -> Skype address? 08:27:28 jl -> koreabridge 08:27:37 Stoakley -> nope 08:36:29 dhuffer -> that's what peader said 08:39:22 Stoakley -> Yes, this is true about Korean teachers, but "easy" ways about it. 08:42:14 Stoakley -> Competence for image? 08:42:54 jmart -> I don't know everyones voices so I don't know who is talking. 08:43:26 Stoakley -> Aaron Jolly 08:43:32 Stoakley -> Peader 08:43:43 MattinDaegu -> in encouraging more people of one particular group to be in leadership positions 08:44:00 MattinDaegu -> not to say that Koreans would not be competent 08:44:47 MattinDaegu -> I agree with what Peadar said that it should be 'everyone' as opposed to focusing membship drives 08:45:38 Stoakley -> smooth 08:45:49 Stoakley -> lol 08:45:53 jmart -> We should have presentations in Korean for Korean teachers. 08:46:45 MattinDaegu -> why not in French for teachers from Quebec? Or Afrikaans for South Africans? 08:46:55 jmart -> Not all Korean schools have the same schedule. 08:47:22 Stoakley -> The Daejeon-ChungCheong Chapter SPECIFICALLY changed meetings to cater to K-teachers 08:47:30 jmart -> MattinDaegu: We are in Korea and most people are working with Koreans. 08:47:45 MattinDaegu -> true, but we are all teaching English 08:48:09 MattinDaegu -> and this brings up the issue of competence 08:50:29 jmart -> Accademic language fluency is not the same as conversational fluency and you have to meet people where they are. I did meet a teacher who used a lot of strategies to make up for his lack of fluency. Teaching about teaching would be something to present in Korean for Korean teachers. 08:51:03 Stoakley -> Minutes are available. 08:51:20 jmart -> What about competent administrators who want to improve English teaching in their schools, but don't speak English themselves? 08:52:01 dhuffer -> Good points jmart 08:52:27 dhuffer -> BT's fault! 08:52:32 MattinDaegu -> that's a great idea, I agree heartily...but I wonder if it would take away from resources available...I personally have no problem with Korean sessions being offered 08:52:37 dhuffer -> ok, never mind 08:52:52 MattinDaegu -> I just wonder if it would create additional bloqs to be concerned with 08:53:24 jmart -> I don't speak Korean so it would be up to our Korean speakers to offer presentations and workshops for Koreans. 08:53:45 dhuffer -> the budget? 08:54:01 MattinDaegu -> which, as has been mentioned, is an issue given how few Korean members we have at the moment 08:54:29 MattinDaegu -> would every conference be capable of offering such programs? 08:55:41 MattinDaegu -> I know for the Daegu chapter there are only a few regular Korean members, and while they are great and would be able to run such a program, does every chapter have such availability and would making them a national issue risk alienating Korean members in chapters where such a program is not available? 08:56:21 dhuffer -> I don't think we need Korean presentations at every conference. A SIG would be a good start for Koreans to communicate and be involved 08:56:35 MattinDaegu -> fair enough 08:57:53 dhuffer -> why don't we use interns? 08:58:02 MattinDaegu -> grad students 08:58:28 dhuffer -> yes, or even compsci undergrads. resume foder for them 08:59:10 MattinDaegu -> so that would be an HR issue 08:59:39 dhuffer -> BT - will the new site look a little more contemporary? 09:00:31 MattinDaegu -> I'm sure that it would be quite easy to find a grad student willing to pad their CV with a volunteer position 09:00:41 MattinDaegu -> and a highly competent one at that 09:00:49 dhuffer -> no class tomorrow :D 09:01:46 dhuffer -> and with an English speaking org. that's a good ref for someone 09:01:52 MattinDaegu -> exactly 09:03:39 dhuffer -> what budget?? 09:03:43 MattinDaegu -> national 09:03:51 dhuffer -> of course 09:03:55 MattinDaegu -> lol 09:04:02 MattinDaegu -> uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 09:04:05 MattinDaegu -> what??? 09:04:11 MattinDaegu -> why NOT!?!? 09:04:23 dhuffer -> so everyone has to ask Deborah individually? 09:04:32 dhuffer -> thank you sara 09:04:37 MattinDaegu -> indeed!! 09:05:05 MattinDaegu -> don't overload Deborah, put it up!!! 09:05:37 jl -> this is aaron 09:06:31 Stoakley -> we see email 09:07:14 Stoakley -> recalled 09:07:36 Stoakley -> hear hear 09:07:52 MattinDaegu -> it's been fantastically useful! 09:09:05 Stoakley -> And vote for me! 09:09:17 Stoakley -> oh, wait....i ain't runnin' 09:10:00 dhuffer -> we'll write you in 09:12:48 Stoakley -> Thanks, gents, for hosting this! 09:12:52 Stoakley -> !shoosh 09:12:57 dhuffer -> cheers! 09:13:13 Stoakley -> und, go Drupal! 09:13:36 dhuffer -> COBOL!!