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In this episode of E-Coffee with Experts, Kevin Pike, President & Owner at Rank Fuse Digital Marketing, talks about how SEO is changing in today’s AI-driven world. He explains why agencies can no longer focus only on rankings and website traffic, and instead need to connect their work directly to leads, revenue, and real business results.
Kevin also shares why metrics like impressions and clicks are becoming less useful, and why marketers should start paying more attention to qualified leads, sales pipeline impact, and CRM data.
We also discuss how backlinks, online mentions, and platforms like Clutch and Expertise are now influencing visibility inside AI tools like ChatGPT, Gemini, and Perplexity—and why SEO today is starting to look more like digital PR than ever before.
If you’re a founder, agency owner, or marketing leader trying to understand how to balance traditional SEO with AI search visibility, this episode offers practical insights you can apply right away.
Key topics covered:
- The “3 Cs” framework for strong, long-term SEO
- Moving from white-label services to direct client growth
- Why many agencies slow down after reaching $1M revenue
- How AI is changing marketing measurement and attribution
- The role of backlinks and citations in AI search results
- Why SEO and digital PR are becoming closely connected
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In this episode, we discuss:
00:00 - 00:48: Introduction
00:48 - 02:10: Kevin’s Journey into SEO
02:10 - 03:55: Google Updates and Their Impact on SEO
03:55 - 05:40: Why RankFuse Shifted from White-Label Work
05:40 - 07:30: Early Challenges of Running an Agency
07:30 - 09:35: What Helps Agencies Grow Revenue
09:35 - 11:45: Productized Services vs Custom Work
11:45 - 13:40: How AI Is Changing SEO Today
13:40 - 15:10: Why CRM Data Matters More Now
15:10 - 17:00: Backlinks and Citations for AI Visibility
17:00 - 19:20: SEO vs AEO Investment Strategy
19:20 - 20:35: Advice for Young Marketers and Founders
20:35 - 22:05: Rapid Fire Round with Kevin
22:05 - 23:44: Closing Thoughts
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https://rankfuse.com/
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