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I niende afsnit af podcasten besøger Louise Klinke Øhrstrøm teolog og forfatter Elisabeth Engell Jessen for at tale med hende om Julian af Norwichs niende vision og om digteren og billedkunstneren William Blake. Elisabeth er præst i Nørre Søby og har tidligere skrevet Phd om William Blake (1757 -1827), som hun stadig er meget optaget af. Hun har desuden skrevet digtsamlingen ”Navnebogen” (Eksistensen, 2018). Undervejs sammenligner Elisabeth Engell Jessen Julians niende vision med en slags himmelvision, som Blake fik, da han var i Felpham i 1800 og skrev i digtform til sin ven, Mr Thomas Butt. Herunder gengivet fra http://erdman.blakearchive.org/   To my Friend Butts I write My first Vision of Light On the yellow sands sitting The Sun was Emitting His Glorious beams From Heavens high Streams Over Sea over Land My Eyes did Expand Into regions of air Away from all Care Into regions of fire Remote from Desire The Light of the Morning Heavens Mountains adorning In particles bright The jewels of Light Distinct shone & clear— Amazd & in fear I each particle gazed Astonishd Amazed For each was a Man Human formd. Swift I ran For they beckond to me Remote by the Sea Saying. Each grain of Sand Every Stone on the Land Each rock & each hill Each fountain & rill Each herb & each tree Mountain hill Earth & Sea Cloud Meteor & Star Are Men Seen Afar I stood in the Streams Of Heavens bright beams And Saw Felpham sweet Beneath my bright feet In soft Female charms And in her fair arms My Shadow I knew And my wifes shadow too And My Sister & Friend. We like Infants descend In our Shadows on Earth Like a weak mortal birth My Eyes more & more Like a Sea without shore Continue Expanding The Heavens commanding Till the jewels of Light Heavenly Men beaming bright Appeard as One Man Who Complacent began My limbs to infold In his beams of bright gold Like dross purgd away All my mire & my clay Soft consumd in delight In his bosom sun bright I remaind. Soft he smild And I heard his voice Mild60 Saying This is My Fold O thou Ram hornd with gold Who awakest from sleep On the sides of the Deep On the Mountains around The roarings resound Of the lion & wolf The loud sea & deep gulf These are guards of My Fold O thou Ram hornd with gold And the voice faded mild I remaind as a Child All I ever had known Before me bright Shone I saw you & your wife By the fountains of Life Such the Vision to me Appeard on the Sea     LIDT OM JULIAN AF NORWICH:'  Julian af Norwich levede som rekluse (en slags eneboer) i en celle i Sct. Julian’s Church i Norwich i England i slutningen af 1300-tallet. Hun er opkaldt efter kirken, fordi man ikke kender hendes rigtige navn. Til gengæld har man masser af tekst fra hendes hånd og de to versioner af ”Showing of love” (”Kærlighedens åbenbaring”, da., Boedal 2010) er de første engelske tekster, man med sikkerhed ved er skrevet af en kvinde. Teksterne handler om de seksten visioner, Julian fik i 1373 og har vakt interesse både hos historikere, teologer, psykologer, filosoffer og forfattere. Louise Klinke Øhrstrøm står bag den første danske oversættelse af teksterne og boede i 2011-13 i Norwich for at skrive Phd om Julian. I podcasten JULIAN tager Louise i hvert afsnit udgangspunkt i en af Julian af Norwichs visioner sammen med en gæst.