Jessica chats with nature based mindfulness teacher and activist Melanie Pensak about what led her to combine her outdoor meditation practice with climate change activism and how to get relief in a capitalist urban environment.

Hot Topic: Jessica Sele Talks About Climate Change For Some Reason

HT EP 15 MELANIE PENSAK

Nobody usually wants to think, talk or hear about climate change so Jessica Sele decided to dedicate a whole podcast to broaching this huge bummer. While not taking it too lightly but not being so heavy handed as to give guests, listeners or herself anxiety attacks, she offers an earnest attempt to get at what is going on in our hearts while we destroy the planet.