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https://www.youtube.com/embed/6JKRRdXpX9s Jim ColemanCo-Founder of xFusion Sponsors: PrisyncSpark Shipping Links: https://www.xfusion.io/https://www.linkedin.com/in/jim-coleman/https://www.linkedin.com/company/xfusion-support/https://twitter.com/jim_coleman1https://twitter.com/Groove_Jar Transcript: Charles (00:00): In this episode of the business. E-Commerce I talk with Jim Coleman about how to get started outsourcing customer support. This is the business of e-commerce episode, 155. Charles (00:18): Welcome to the Business of eCommerce. The show that helps e-commerce retailers to start, launch and grow their e-commerce business. I'm your host Charles Palleschi and I'm here today with Jim Coleman. Jim is a co-founder of X fusion where they provide outsourced customer support for e-commerce businesses. I asked him on the show today to talk about if you're a founder and you're thinking of hiring your first support person or outsourcing support, what are some of the do's and don'ts and what are some things you should absolutely do to make your first support hire or outsource successful? You works with a lot of e-commerce retailers. So I think he brings some great advice to the table and has some great tips out. So let's get into the show and if you have any questions, leave in the show notes and I can forward them over to Jim. So let's get into this. So Hey Jim, how you doing today? Good, Charles, how are you? Good. Awesome. I have you on the show. I'm excited to dig into the topic of customer support and outsourcing. It's very near and dear to my heart. So, so real quick, what do you, so you run an agency. Oh, so I was saying support essentially, right? Jim (01:31): We do. Yeah, it's called X fusion.io. And we, we provide customer support customer success to founders. We started kind of scratching our own itch. My, my co-founder David and I are both business owners and we built out a team internally on, on each of our companies. And then wanted to bring that to the broader market so that we kicked off mid 2019. And it's been growing since then. Charles (01:54): Okay. Yeah. So I feel like support is one of those things where everyone just want to, like the, it's usually one of the first things you see, like you're trying to word this correctly, the biggest time sink at the beginning, where you're just spending a ton of back and forth. And a lot of founders want to kind of get it off their plate early, but I don't think a lot know how or know the right way. Maybe they're like running out of their inbox or just as no docs, just kind of doing everything out of their own head. What do you kind of see that? Do you folks usually come to you at the beginning when, Hey, you know, I'm a founder, I'm doing a hundred percent of support and I want to get this moving somewhere else. So [inaudible], Jim (02:35): Well, we have a really nice mix of both. So we have, we have solo founders that come to us and they're just overwhelmed and swallowed up in support requests and other responsibilities. And then we also work with the existing teams to help them scale. I enjoy both, but I particularly enjoy working with, with founders because of the, the wins that we can help them achieve at the earlier level. And, and what I mean is just that we, we like to focus on helping founders get back to the highest and best use of their time. And I recognize that like everybody has to make the decision on like when is the right time to pull the trigger for them. And I recognize that, you know, we have to build up revenue before we have the, the, the bandwidth to be able to hire a team to handle support. Jim (03:12): But one thing I'd like to consider is like, if, if you're at that place where you can afford to do so, and you don't, then you're spending a good chunk of time working on tasks that are not the highest and best use of your time. In other words, things that other people can effectively handle ...