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In this episode, poet Ashlee Haze is in conversation with poet Rasheed Copeland about a collective shift in the way we define and value masculinity, what black women have taught him, and the work of Bell Hooks. Bonus: Rasheed shares a poem as a call to action for his "mans n' nem." Follow us on instagram! @hazeshigherlearning --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/ashlee-haze/message