Episode 4: Jacqueline Warner on Mental Health

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Jacqueline and I never anticipated that a conversation that started with affordable healthcare would take us on the journey to discuss the importance of mental health, depression and what colleagues can do when they notice a change in a person’s behavior. This episode shares stories of depression, PTSD and suicide. We reference Anthony Bourdain and Kate Spade in the episode. Trigger warning: We share stories of suicide in San Francisco, talk about doctor-assisted suicide and discuss Anthony Bourdain and Kate Spade. If you’d like to skip it, please note that it’s mostly discussed from timestamp 8:46 - 23:20     Show Timestamps: 0:00 - Preamble, trigger warnings and introductions with Jacqueline Warner5:00 - The importance of mission in an organization and how “affordable healthcare” is an oxymoron 8:46 - End of life care and why Jamie appreciates living in Oregon13:00 - Jamie’s neighbor commits suicide 17:09 - Mental Health initiatives in healthcare organization to identify and talk to colleagues that may be at risk of suicidal behaviors; Jacqueline shares a story of her colleague’s suicide 23:20 - How to ask an employee or colleague, “are you considering suicide?” and how suicide is talked about in the media29:30 - Suicide as a conscious choice vs. mental health illness and Jamie talks about her experience with PTSD and depression   Music Credits: Eterno Retorno - Madame Rrose SelavyLife is Long - David ByrneIt’s a Hard Life - QueenHappy Ending - MikaNew York Minute Prayer - Shlipa Ray