In their latest ramble-fest, Tom and Gary talk about their Covid-testing adventures, ad campaigns that flummox them, the tyranny of "right?", and useless things people spend money on.

So There!

Episode 35 - "Nobody has a sixth finger, some people have four fingers" and other observations

Hosted by Gary Doyle and Tom Keramidas, two advertising executives from Chicago, “So There!” attempts to plumb the depths and solve the mysteries of the inexplicable human behaviors we witness every day – from elevator irritants to commuter misbehavers to men who loiter nude in locker rooms for hours on end for no apparent reason – with occasional forays into marketing and whatever other banalities come to our mind. It’s been called “the Seinfeld of podcasts” – by no one but us. So there!

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