Join Valerie and hubby Nathan as they talk about implicit contracts around gender rolls and how they together had to challenge everything that wasn’t working and challenge how they get these ideas in their minds in the first place!

Voices About Living

Episode 107: Burning OUT and Burning UP Gender Roles

This podcast is a journey into the world of transformation and personal growth through the counseling process. Therapists Valerie Hamaker and Dr. Todd Frye interview and discuss their experiences with a variety of individuals and couples who share their life-changing experiences in working through the counseling process. This podcast is both inspiring and educational for the counselor, counselor in training, or for anyone wanting to learn more about their own potential for growth and change.