E. 027 - The Next 10 Framework: Monetize Without a Big Audience

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Episode Summary


In this episode of The Podcaster’s Journey, Kaleb opens up about being in the messy middle of his podcasting journey—no longer a beginner, but not quite “there” yet. He introduces the Next 10 Framework, a 3-step approach to start monetizing your podcast—even with a small audience.


Kaleb walks through practical, real-world advice on choosing between high-ticket and low-ticket offers, creating products your audience actually needs, and reverse-engineering your ideal lifestyle through podcasting. Whether you’re a creative, coach, or entrepreneur using your podcast as a tool to grow your business, this episode will help you find clarity and momentum.


Key Points & Highlights

– Entrepreneurship is like swimming between two islands

– Why audience size is overrated for monetization

– High-ticket vs. low-ticket: Which fits your life?

– How Kaleb’s Notion template is shaping his workflow

– The 3-step Next 10 Framework to monetize your podcast


Notable Quotes


“You don’t need thousands of listeners to make money. You just need the right offer.”


“Serve the people you love serving—and build from there.”


“Don’t worry about making a million. Make something great for the next 10 people.”


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Episode Timestamps:

00:00 - The Island Metaphor for Entrepreneurs

01:00 - Why This Episode Matters If You’re in the Middle

02:59 - Point #1: The Myth of Audience Size

05:20 - How Engagement Beats Download Counts

06:17 - Point #2: High Ticket vs. Low Ticket

09:38 - Monetization that Aligns with Your Lifestyle

12:02 - Point #3: The Next 10 Framework

17:46 - Recap: 3 Steps to Monetize Effectively

18:44 - Invitation to Connect & Feedback Request


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