Radio host, Rick Morton, joined Jay and his sister, Kaarin Howard, in San Diego to talk about the ups and downs of pursuing an "on air" career, and how losing it all can be the best thing to ever happen to you.

Building the Oracle - with Jay Swanson

BONUS POD: How Rick Morton lost it all before hitting #1

An author and an editor interview entrepreneurs and world-class artists as they chronicle their journey to create their own publishing house and film studio around the fictional fantasy universe "The Oracle of the Dread Gods" by host, Jay Swanson.

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Building the Oracle - with Jay Swanson