An interview with Francis Fukuyama, Senior Fellow at Stanford University’s Freeman Spogli Institute

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In this episode, hosts Chris and Ken speak to Francis Fukuyama, Olivier Nomellini Senior Fellow at Stanford University’s Freeman Spogli Institute for international Studies. Fukuyama joins the podcast to talk about his recent article in The Atlantic, where he discusses the effectiveness, or lack thereof, of both autocratic and democratic governments in handling the COVID-19 pandemic.