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This installment features interviews with Columbia University President and first amendment lawyer Lee Bollinger, and Will Creeley, the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education’s (FIRE) Director of Legal and Public Advocacy. Counterspeak is a free speech podcast hosted by Sydney Jarrard, ABA's Content Director; Dave Grogan, ABA's Director of ABFE, Advocacy and Public Policy; and Maria Peroni, ABA's Advocacy and Public Policy Coordinator. The views expressed in this podcast are not necessarily that of the American Booksellers Association or the American Booksellers for Free Expression.