Derren and I spoke about stoicism, the psychology of socio-political standpoints, faith healing, how we frame suffering, relationships and...there is a great story about a parrot at the end.

Under The Skin with Russell Brand

#76 Truth & Illusions (with Derren Brown)

A weekly interview series from Russell Brand that examines what's beneath the surface—of the people we admire, the ideas that define our time, and the history we’re told. Speaking with guests from the worlds of academia, popular culture, and the arts, Russell seeks to uncover the ulterior truth behind our constructed reality. And have a laugh.On his new podcast ‘Above the Noise’ Russell guides us all—curious beginners, spiritual skeptics, and experienced practitioners—in brief, 10-minute meditations. Listen to Above the Noise on Luminary

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Under The Skin with Russell Brand