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If we look patiently, we'll sometimes see that underneath the 'presenting surface' of our lives is something within us working away persistently, lovingly, courageously. That something - a kind of essential goodness - has often begun working with what we care most about even before we've consciously begun ourselves. What would it be to see and trust that essential goodness within us and within one another, and to give it a name - as David Whyte does in the luminous poem that's our source for this week's conversation? This week's Turning Towards Life is a conversation about seeing the goodness in ourselves and one another, hosted as always by Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. This is Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living. Find us on FaceBook to watch live and join in the lively conversation on this episode. You can find videos of every episode, and more about the project on the Turning Towards Life website, and you can also watch and listen on Instagram, YouTube, and as a podcast on Apple, Google and Spotify. Here's our source for this week: YOU KNOW WHEN ITS TIME TO GO Even in the midst of thinking you’ll never be ready even when  you feel  you have never deserved that freedom to go even under the comforting  illusion that  you  never had  a single speck of faith in what  you want you have  already packed, your silent reluctance away, lifted your ear  to the morning  birdsong and before  anyone  can wake you are  already out the door, down the road round the corner and on your way. … Excerpt from ‘You Know When It’s Time to Go’ from ‘STILL POSSIBLE’ Poetry by David Whyte Photo by Andriyko Podilnyk on Unsplash